从前，喜剧演员和作家Phoebe Robinson用于write丑闻recaps for glamour.com.今天，though,she's sitting in a swanky hotel room with her BFF and2 Dope Queens共同主持人杰西卡·威廉姆斯为他们的新HBO特价促销。"It's a dream,it really is," Robinson says.“我觉得奥巴马就职时，even though that's not accurate."
罗宾逊可能在开玩笑，but it's an appropriate analogy given that2 Dope Queens几年前作为草根播客开始。"It's just nuts," she says.“这是所以cool." Tonight HBO debuts the first of four hour-long specials focused on Blerds (Black Nerds),Hot Peen,纽约，还有头发。罗宾逊和威廉姆斯还招募了著名的朋友，如莎拉·杰西卡·帕克，Uzo AdubaJon Stewart,还有提图斯·伯吉斯加入他们，除此之外，还有一些不知名的喜剧演员想追随这对搭档的脚步。威廉姆斯说，"It's a showcase for those talents,我觉得你现在在这个电视或喜剧的舞台上看不到这一点。”
但在你观看罗宾逊和威廉姆斯上台之前，朋友们向我敞开心扉Glamourabout their journey,Hollywood's shifting culture,以及支持其他女性的真正意义。
魅力：有些人一定认为你在HBO上很容易就有了自己的节目，并且一举成名，但从来没有那么简单。What are some of the unspoken truths to get to where you are?
Phoebe Robinson:Even before we had our podcast,我们从[即兴剧团]东部联合公民旅出发，and I had an email list where I tell people to come to the show.[我们还有播客，2 Dope Queens，但是播客赚不了多少钱。They are truly a labor of love,所以我们只是在宣传和传播这个词。我们最终到达了更大的场地，but it was a lot of hard work.It looks super fun and easy because…
Jessica Williams:显然，我们是时尚皇威廉希尔备用网址后。我们看起来很可爱！We have our wigs together.
Phoebe:[Laughs.] Yeah.但在一天结束的时候，是关于工作，long hours,and making a lot of decisions.This is cool doing the press,but it took years to get to this point.
杰西卡：And it's doing shows when you're in a bad mood or you don't feel like doing it,但你必须出现。You end up having fun,but no matter what happens,这是在做心理工作，以确保我们的心态是正确的，这样我们总能得到好的表演。People ask you where your progress comes from,真的就像是地里的种子。你给它浇水，一直到它生长的时候，最后经过很多次，多年来，这棵树开始生长。That's kind of our story.
杰西卡：Was that too goofy?
Phoebe:Did you just text Gwyneth [Paltrow] and ask her what you should say?
杰西卡：我喜欢，“Gwynie…”但是没有，there's something about you plant a seed and you wait for a long time.It doesn't mean that it's not growing.
Phoebe:Not to be cheesy,but I really do feel like the end result is not the goal.这是学习，这是如何成为制片人的旅程，how to edit,玩得开心，because now the product is here,and we don't know how people are going to react to it.We hope that people love it and everybody goes…